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Cardinal George, Shame On You!

Posted on 15. Aug, 2009 by in Announcements

In order for you to understand what I am talking about in this article, you have to read a piece that I located on the Cardinal George Fan Club web site.

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FRIDAY, APRIL 14, 2006

Matters take a nasty turn in Chicago: an overview.

A very sad occurrance occured today in the Cathedral of Chicago:

A man was arrested for criminal trespass after he reportedly yelled at Cardinal Francis George during a mass Thursday at Holy Name Cathedral in Chicago, according to police.

Colleen Dolan, communications director for the Catholic Archdiocese of Chicago, said the cardinal told her that the man carried a knife and a sign demanding the cardinal step down, but police said they found no knife or sign.

The incident occurred sometime after 5:15 p.m.

Police said that the man had been warned against entering the church, but that he went inside and created a disturbance. He was charged with criminal trespass, according to Police Officer Hector Alfaro.

According to the cardinal’s version, the man stood up at the rear of the church and began shouting at him.

(http://cardinalgeorge.blogspot.com/2006/04/matters-take-nasty-turn-in-chicago.html)
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If I were an older brother or a close friend to Colleen Dolan, communications director for the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Chicago, I would tell her, “Do not be so quick to trust the information that Cardinal George asks you to release to the public.”

I was present during the mass indicated in the article attached above. In fact, I was in the company of a number of witnesses other than myself, all of whom remember very vividly witnessing this confrontation. The suspect was literally less than 5 feet from us when he engaged the cardinal. I watched the suspect very closely. For a second, I glanced at the cardinal. I will never forget the look of fear on the cardinal’s face during this brief but disturbing interruption. After noticing the look on the cardinal’s face, I immediately refocused my eyes on the suspect, concentrating on his rambling speech.

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  • Mike Ryan

    I was at that mass too. I agree with you Joe Fosco. What is wrong with the cardinal?

  • Yoda

    Research has shown eyewitness accounts are rarely accurately in terms of detail – especially when its the victim who is recalling a circumstance that occurred under duress or distraction – he was saying mass. And if you were the only one supposed to be speaking and suddenly there’s competition it may seem loud to you! Do I have a problem with someone that interrupted Mass being arrested regardless of their state of mind? no. Had this man caused problems before? This is what you should focus on. Was the man wrongly charged because of the Cardinals possible innaccurate statement regarding the knife? No. Why in He** would the Cardinal apologize for being interupted by a rude man? This is not an irresponsible article just an example of an author wanting – whether due to his large donations (did you donate large amounts of money just so you can validate your complaints?) to the Church – a church leader in this case a Cardinal to respond in a manner he deems correct. I am sure there were several hundred other witnesses that were obviously content with the way this was handled – should the Cardinal have brought him up as a guest speaker? Joe human beings behave in a human manner and will not always satisify your every expectation. If you respond I fully expect you will only address one point brought up as that seems to be your MO.

  • Book Work

    Mr. Fosco:

    I wouldn’t consider this article irresponsible as much as I’d consider it an overreaction on your part.

    In this situation Cardinal George was utterly, completely, and, perhaps, embarrassingly wrong.

    Is that so impossible or hard to believe? As I understand it, he has never made an infallibility claim, and no one has ever made such a claim on his behalf.

    I don’t think the fact that the Cardinal reported disinformation to his communications director is a “shocking” revelation, and I think that characterizing it as such is histrionic.

    It sounds like you had a far better vantage point than Cardinal George as to exactly what the man was doing and holding. If that’s the case, then it makes perfect sense that your interpretation of the event was corroborated by the news report, and that the Cardinal’s report was not.

    It doesn’t mean that the Cardinal lied, but, again, that’s what you are inferring.
    And, again, you’re inviting readers to do the same. If you weren’t, you wouldn’t have titled this article, “Cardinal George, Shame On You!”

    In this piece you’re taking an uninteresting event that transpired in which the Cardinal was flat-out wrong and extrapolating that he had a sinister motive.

    You imply that there was/is a cover up by including the anecdote about the unnamed prominent clergy member who “begged [you] to remain silent” on this matter.

    I admire that you stand by your work, but since you have decided to draw attention to it, yes, this is an irresponsibly written article. What is more egregious, however, is that you are presenting it as if it’s an interesting story that you’ve finally decided to “go public” with after much inner turmoil.

    Look, Mr. Fosco: the Cardinal is 72-years old. If he’s losing his faculties, that’s one thing, and it’s then up to Pope Benedict to relieve him of his ecclesiastical responsibilities. And if that’s the case, I’m all for it.

    But taking apparently benign situations involving the Cardinal and attempting to deduce sinister explanations (that are unfounded), and then propagating them, is simply conspiracy theorization.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Yoda,
    Can you provide the research about ‘eyewitness accounts’ that you are relying on? I would like to review this research before I respond to it. You can email it to me directly at jfosco@ktfmedigroup.com.
    Speaking of my own experiences for now, until we can verify your research on ‘eye accounts’, I have been in a number of startling situations over the years, where someone interrupted me by making a loud noise. Never once did such an experience cause me to imagine that a weapon was involved. Could someone be so frightened by an interruption, causing a hallucination to occur, worse yet, resulting in a false report to the police? We cannot thank Cardinal George because the suspect avoided trumped up charges – that was the result of good police work.
    That evening someone asked if anyone thought the cardinal pooped in his pants. Do not worry the question if the cardinal pooped in his pants will not become the topic of a new article. Another person answered, “No, I do not think the cardinal is a sissy?”
    Could there have been several hundred other witnesses? I doubt it. No matter how many other witnesses there were, no one in the cathedral knew the suspect was followed and arrested. We were all at Mass.
    Let me explain, the suspect simply walked down the isle in the direction of the altar and said something to the cardinal that was almost imposable to understand and continued to walk directly outside. The suspect chanted in a language other than English. Was the man appropriate? No. Was the man in possession of a knife and a threatening note? No. Should the man have been arrested? Maybe. Should the Cardinal have lied to the police? No.
    Speaking of the cardinal lying, have you talked to Illinois Supreme Court Justice Anne Burke? Better yet, read the transcripts of his deposition regarding sex abuse cases. It is only a few hundred pages. I read it twice. In fact, I read the exhibits as well, that was another few hundred pages. I have copies that I can send to you, free of charge.
    Justice Anne Burke and I know the Cardinal has little credibility.
    I do not use my donation status as a tool to validate my concerns for the church. I merely brought up my donations the other day when someone foolishly insinuated that I might be targeting the church for money.

  • Book Work

    Who are you responding to?

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Mr. or Ms. Book,
    The Cardinal was 69-years old when this false report to the police was made. It has been nearly a year since I last saw the cardinal. He looked as alert as ever. If something has changed in the last several months, I am unaware of it.
    Book, suggesting that I have overreacted is a switch tactic, in the worst case. You are attempting to divert the attention that is appropriately placed on the Cardinal’s histrionic behavior, on to my noble reporting of it. Please save your spew for someone else. There is nothing benign about making a false report to the police. The cardinal could have told the police that he could not see what the man was holding. He could have asked someone, like me, if the man was holding something. No, instead, Cardinal George misinformed the police. If misinforming the police is benign, we must ask why there are criminal statues for false police reports in the first place; speaking of which, that was the only crime committed at the Cathedral that night, in my opinion.

  • Book Work

    Mr. Fosco,

    I, for one, take you at your word that you are a sincere, dedicated, and deeply faithful Catholic.

    Here’s an excerpt from Ivy League Law Professor Michael C. Dorf’s article, “How Reliable Is Eyewitness Testimony?,” which is available via Lexis-Nexis (if you have access to subscription databases at the library, etc.) or probably for free at FindLaw.com
    ___________________________________________________________
    “At the same time, numerous psychological studies have shown that human beings are not very good at identifying people they saw only once for a relatively short period of time. The studies reveal error rates of as high as fifty percent — a frightening statistic given that many convictions may be based largely or solely on such testimony.

    These studies show further that the ability to identify a stranger is diminished by stress (and what crime situation is not intensely stressful?), that cross-racial identifications are especially unreliable, and that contrary to what one might think, those witnesses who claim to be “certain” of their identifications are no better at it than everyone else, just more confident.”
    ___________________________________________________________

    I expect that you’ll investigate further.

  • Book Work

    Why would you solicit the opinions of your readers as the responsibility of this exact article, but then ask to, “please save your spew for someone else”? just because they have an opinion that differs from your “noble” reporting self?

  • Joseph Fosco

    Mr. or Ms. Book Work,
    You are showing me crap. Your research talks about people’s memory diminishing over time, etc. Mainly about what someone looks like. Show me some material on how someone can immediately not recall seeing a deadly weapon, or how someone could accidentally claim (immediately) that someone had a deadly weapon in his or her hand.
    Nice try, but weak, very weak.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Mr. or Ms. Book,
    You are discussing your switch tactic as a humble opinion. Come on. Cut the crap. Are you Cardinal George, or his live-in male secretary?
    By the way, if you are under the impression that I am upset, you are wrong. I am finding this to be very humorous.

  • Book Work

    Weak, huh? I think that it’s at least a good start. Do you really think that there is no research to bolster Yoda’s claim? Do you, as a former SUIC law student, really believe that?

    And there you go again extrapolating a nonsensical explanation as to why someone would be challenging for semi-literate article. “Of course it has to be someone from the Archdiocese!” Is that really what you think?

    If you you’re not up to serious discourse, then fine. It’s your online magazine.

    As to your sense of humor, I’ve always assumed that you have at least a keen sense of irony since you have a tendency to write complete and utter fiction on a blog whose credo is:

    “To Know Is The Key.”

    Now THAT is priceless.

    Explain to me my switch tactic again.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Book,
    You have proven to be a crank.

  • Book Work

    Sorry.

    I meant to say “YOUR semi-literate article.” Turns out that I’m fallible just like every other human being on the face of the earth.

  • Book Work

    Who proved it? And why? Just because my opinion of your journalism in the context of this article differs from the author’s?

  • Book Work

    Look, Mr. Fosco.

    You calling me a crank, and me calling you semi-literate is getting in the territory of being ad hominem.

    For my part, I apologize.

    You asked to be furnished with research pertaining to ‘eyewitness accounts,’ which is what I provided. If you want to dismiss it out of hand then there’s nothing I can do about it.

    Believe me, there are plenty more research studies accessible via the law database, Lexis-Nexis, but I don’t want to inundate your blog with long URL chains.

    I’m not a crank, and you saying that I am, doesn’t make it so.

    Because I disagree with you doesn’t mean I’m wrong.

    Just because you don’t hold yourself to the same rigors of logic and common sense that you purport to hold your readers to doesn’t mean that you can get away with publishing tabloid material and claiming it’s legit, responsible reporting.

    And just because I’m defending a guy who happens to be the Cardinal, doesn’t mean that I am he or his live-in male secretary, as you put it.

    You asked for readers’ opinions, which, for my part, I provided, and you decided jumped all over it.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Book, you are such a crank, my reporting a man that mislead the police, which the police determined, according to you is tabloid material.

  • Jimmy

    Joe…
    I admire you for being decent and patient enough to give these ‘cranks’ the courtesy of responding to them. Although, you should probably stop now, your excellent points have been made and received.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Thanks Jimmy. We should probably put some emphasis on DiFronzo and Giacchino.

  • Book Work

    I’m sorry you think I’m a crank.

    Listen, if the Cardinal was as unfit for his office that you imply he is in your articles, believe me: I’d be front and center with you calling for his removal. But the fact is that you don’t have the goods, and it doesn’t take legal research material to show that. I suspect that you know this, too, as you seem reasonably law-savvy.

    You are writing subjective, emotionally driven articles, which is your right to do. Other readers and I have provided criticism that undermines your theses.

    Because of that you think we are wrong. That’s dogmatic, Joe.

    Trust me: we had a sinister priest at my suburban parish some years ago. The entire congregation (including myself) were happy to see him go.

    But the thing is–and this is what your articles lack–there were numerous police agencies involved and mountains of physical, electronic, and circumstantial evidence that proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he was someone who did reprehensible things.

    Until you can provide such evidence, or even construct a decent argument supporting your contention, I, personally, am not convinced that Cardinal George is guilty of any of things you imply, suggest, infer, etc., he is guilty of.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Crank, I am not a prosecutor, nor am I trying to have someone prosecuted. I have simply said, what the police have said, contrary to the Cardinal’s testimony there was no finding of armed violence. Thank you.

  • Kelvin Ronald

    He’s not a crank, Fosco.

    BW’s problem is that he’s approaching your issue with an academic detachment. Your problem (if it is a problem) is that you are emotionally (and spiritually?) invested in the situation. The two of you cannot really have a coherent argument.

    You, Fosco, are not John Searle, and he does know or seem to care what your motivations are. Neither of you can be expected to get through to each other.

    That said, BW did make some strong points, Fosco.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Mr. Kelvin,
    And shall we forget that Cardinal George drastically mislead the police?

  • Kelvin Ronald

    You have yet to prove that he did it knowingly.

  • Kelvin Ronald

    And, respectfully, let me ask what your problem was with the legal excerpt?

  • Joseph Fosco

    Kelvin, read the thread, I have answered these questions. As to proving what the Cardinal knew, I am not a prosecutor. I have simply reported that he mislead the police (which I have said before in the thread).

  • Kelvin Ronald

    Technically, he only misled them if he did it knowingly.

    There is a difference between “disinformation” and “misinformation.”

    If you are not a prosecutor and truly don’t know what Cardinal’s intentions were, why are you assuming that he provided misinformation?

    It’s an honest question.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Kelvin,
    The person did not have a knife. The Cardinal said that he did. That is a lie. You could come with all of your academic studies and arguments and nothing changes the fact the suspect was not in possession of a knife, but the Cardinal said he was. We could go on forever and ever. In my opinion, the Cardinal is a vindictive person and tried to play God (go figure) by attempting to deal out a punishment to a man guilty of using his first amendment right, which upset the red dress wearing man on the pulpit (excuse me for being crude).

  • Kelvin Ronald

    As a researcher and reporter, it seems like you’d be interested in academic studies. In fact you requested the research from “Yoda.” Maybe Mr. Book was out of place in taking it upon himself to be the one to provide it.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Kelvin,
    I welcomed research with open arms, I was handed crap. Go check the thread. If your people think the crap they handed me – academic studies – applies to the matter involving George, your people suck.

  • Yoda

    Exactly how does the 1st Amendment apply to an in process mass? Freedom of speech can not be exercised any where you want meaning it does not apply to private property even tax exempt private property with a red dress wearing man in charge! As for this “research” I have been busy but I am certain if you ask any detective, lawyer or simply google the “limitations of eyewitness accounts” you will find truth in what I have alleged much earlier.

  • Kelvin Ronald

    Right. I am familiar with the thread. I have read the thread twice now.

    If you are not interested in academic research to augment your position, what kind of research are you interested in, exactly? Case studies? Legal precedents regarding confused or traumatized witnesses whose interpretation of events does not square with the actual events? These would qualify as academic, too. Examples abound, Fosco. And if you are not interested in this type of research either because they contrast with your position, then that shows that you are not interested critical reasoning or common sense, but only forwarding your own baseless conspiracy theories. (I have read your responses to comments on other threads and you have dismissed your detractors’ comments as “baseless crap.”)

    (Note: You could probably produce a lengthy bibliography, citing reports and case studies that support your ideas. That is the beauty of ACADEMIA and ACADEMIC freedom—the free exchange of ideas.)

    Also, did you really just write, “your people suck” in reference readers who are interested in research studies that are based on legal precedent and empirical evidence? If so, it does not reflect well on you as the publisher of this online magazine nor as a researcher for your C.C.O.C.

    I am against people coming on here and hectoring you, and it is disappointing to see that Mr. Book (who made some very cogent arguments, in my opinion) resorted to calling your intelligence into question. In my opinion, it is clearly not in question.

    But, if you consider yourself a media figure and want to be taken seriously as a writer, you have to allow for the possibility that you are wrong sometimes, which requires listening to your critics.

    Lastly, I originally thought that a good Catholic man like yourself would be interested in academic arguments, as St. Thomas Aquinas and his whole Medieval Scholastic Catholic tradition created some of the most long-standing, logically and philosophically rigorous arguments in the history of Western Intellectual Culture. Interestingly, his primary source was Aristotle, who, as an atheist, held some core beliefs that were fundamentally at odds with his.

  • Kelvin Ronald

    If you are going to continue to write about Cardinal George and Father Flens in the manner to which you are accustomed (i.e., unrestrained, whimsical, prejudiced), then I suggest you insert a disclaimer as a header, which would explain that the text that follows expresses what is simply your fanciful opinion and is based on no evidence whatsoever.

    (Unless, of course, you have actual evidence, which the literate and informed demographic of your audience would welcome.)

  • Kelvin Ronald

    Yoda,

    Pursuing the “research” requested by Fosco is a waste of time because he has shown that if it undermines his thesis, he considers it “crap.” Which is, of course, unfortunate because he is missing out on a learning experience.

  • Jimmy

    Joe…

    You have explained that KTF is a reality media outlet, whatever your meaning is in saying that, I am sure that using the word ‘sucks’ on KTF is okay. ‘Sucks’ is really not a bad word. It might not be a sophisticated word, but who cares. Joe, everyone understands that you have asked a question of the cardinal (big deal) and that you have pointed out that he said something to the police that was not correct. Perhaps he was the only person in a crowd of roughly 200 hundred that saw a knife, regardless of the police not finding anything.
    Men in red dresses are rare birds, like cardinals. George grew up and decided that he did not want to marry a woman, that wearing red dresses turned him on instead. Then he joined a group called the Culture Club… I tumble for you – I tumble for you.
    As to Cardinal George, my guess is that he wants a man in his bed as most priests do. Whether he has one is another question. Perhaps asking George if he is kneeling in front of Flens is not the right question. Try asking him if it is another young man that makes him all warm inside. If so, let us hope it is a male 18 years or older. You know how those clergy members can be.
    I think you are right; the cardinal is probably a vindictive person. Think about it for a second. How can a man that probably has penis on the brain, who “cannot” act on it actually be anything but mean spirited?

  • Joseph Fosco

    That is enough! Jimmy, or whoever you are, as Publisher of KTF Media Group, I demand you print a retraction at once! I further order you to cease and desist in submitting future comments on KTF after your retraction is submitted!

  • Kelvin Ronald

    Jimmy, I gotta say, that was the most asinine, low-brow blog comment I have read in a while. Thanks for standing up for the integrity of Catholic priests, Joe Fosco.

  • Yoda

    Sucks uhh – well Jimmy your post sucks and it seems you spend a lot of time thinking about homosexual relations – what does that tell us about you? I would suggest you stop wearing red dresses, get a job, move out of your parents basement then maybe you’ll learn how society functions and how to have a civil discussion. Or not keep being a moron see if anyone else cares.

  • Joseph Fosco

    I have to admit, your people have handed me my lunch over the last 2-days. I have reconsidered my media dreams and I have decided to close down the site.

  • Joseph Fosco

    I honestly thought I would have done this for the rest of my life.

  • Joseph Fosco

    I suppose two media moguls from Chicago have announced the close of their program this year, Oprah and me.

  • Joseph Fosco

    I wonder if Oprah would have a drink with me tonight so we could cry the blues together.

  • Kelvin Ronald

    Wow, there goes Fosco’s sense of irony again, as celebrated above by another reader.

    By “your people” surely you mean educated readers who know whereof they speak, as opposed to uninformed clowns who are indifferent to the restraints of logic, prudence, and something known as good old-fashioned common sense, right?

    Good luck with your media dreams, honestly. But, I would seriously like to see what would happen if you submitted any of your articles for scrutiny by a freshman-year-of-college English comp. class, or Intro to Journalism course.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Kelvy, please stop picking on me. You ran me out of business, you broke me, please stop. Tell the Cardinal that I will not eat meat for a year. Just leave me alone, please.

  • Kelvin Ronald

    Fosco, are the co-contributors of this website familiar with your work, your positions, etc.?

  • Hugo Monroe

    Wow. I love that elitism there, Kevvy. Where’s your blog at?
    Catholics should decry the sort of horrible behavior Mr. Fosco is reporting on, not defend the honor of ‘catholic’ priests. There’s nothing Christian about the behavior of Cardinal George, particularly his defense of all those miserable pedophiles that pretend to care about the Catholic community.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Hugo, is that that you? I am feeling stronger now. Thank you. Maybe I will not give up yet.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Kelvin, are you speaking of Conrad Black?

  • Joseph Fosco

    Kelvin, would you like to contribute to KTF? I could learn a thing or two from you.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Kelvin, where are you from? The Melrose Park area?

  • Kelvin Ronald

    I am not being an elitist, Hugo. Neither were any of Fosco’s other detractors.

    (If you are referring to my snarky comments above, I was just responding in kind to Joe Fosco’s use of sarcasm and irony.)

    Fosco holds very extreme positions with regard to the hierarchy of the Archdiocese of Chicago. If that is his belief, that’s fine, and I do not have a problem with that. But he should NOT pretend that these beliefs are supported by any kind of empirical evidence or verifiable fact.

    And, as a responsible researcher and aspiring media figure, Fosco should accept scholarly publications (which he requested) even if they support theses that are contrary to his own beliefs. He stated that he has no interest in academic studies or arguments.

    Contrary to your opinion, Catholics should indeed defend the honor of their priests, and, as you say, should decry the sort of horrible behavior Mr. Fosco is reporting on–not that he has PROVEN anything with regard to the Cardinal himself. Not by a mile.

    If “there’s nothing Christian about the behavior of Cardinal George” is a true statement, then all Catholics should expect to see the Pope defrock him in double quick time. If someone is Catholic and does not believe that will happen, then s/he is outside the orthodoxy of the Catholic Church.

    As for my blog, it is out there, but it pertains specifically to my education and profession, which has zero to do with anything Fosco is concerned with.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Kelvi,
    Not so! Below is a paragraph that you wrote which is not correct.
    ————————————–
    And, as a responsible researcher and aspiring media figure, Fosco should accept scholarly publications (which he requested) even if they support theses that are contrary to his own beliefs. He stated that he has no interest in academic studies or arguments.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Mr. or Ms. Book,
    You have succeeded in reaching me. I have sent an email to my editor asking him to remove the George/Flens article and its entire thread. I would like to think that in the spirit of Bishop Lyne, I finally listened to reason.
    Merry Christmas.
    Sincerely,
    Joseph Fosco

    P.S.
    Book, if you (or your supporters) attempt to persuade me to remove another article, forget it! Instead, I will put the one up that I just took down.

  • If Cardinal George lied could the Pope?

    Sorry but I have to ask should there be some sort of Davinci-Fosco Code investigation into the Pope being knocked down by a deranged woman?

    I thoroughly enjoy your site this is just one article I don’t get.

  • Joseph Fosco

    All I can say is the article above (my article) is accurate.
    Why did I write it? A number of prominent people have claimed that Cardinal George has been dishonest about various matters of importance. Read the book titled, ‘Being Catholic Now’, by late Senator Robert Kennedy’s daughter, Kerry. I felt compelled to add to the question of the cardinal’s credibility.
    Silence is what created tragedy for the church in the first place. I decided to refrain from being silent about a lie that I witnessed the cardinal tell.
    George is the Archbishop of Chicago, but he is also human like you and me, and the rules and the laws of the land apply to him as well. Until God sends for him, Cardinal George must behave as if he is accountable for his actions.
    He must practice what he preaches.
    I am certain that Illinois Supreme Court Justice Anne Burke would agree with me on this matter. Read Kerry Kennedy’s book to see what Justice Burke had to say about Cardinal George. I think you will find that Burke and I have similar experiences with the cardinal archbishop of Chicago.

  • Book Work

    Joe,

    First of all, I’ll read Kerry Kennedy’s book.

    Second, it is entirely possible, as you as an eyewitness have argued, that the Cardinal disinformed; that is, he could have deliberately lied.

    But, third of all–and I’m not trying to rake up old graves here–I think the problem that readers have touched upon is this:

    Have you (or anyone else) ever been or said something wrong without having also lied? I think just about everyone has, as it’s built-into human experience. And, as you say, “George is the Archbishop of Chicago, but he is also human like you and me.”

    The truth is, only the Cardinal–and God–knows.

    Anyway, the point is that there are 2 sides to this situation.

    Merry Christmas to you.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Book,
    Merry Christmas – I will drop out of this discussion in observance of the holiday.

  • Book Work

    Yeah, to be honest with you, I’ll drop out of it all together.

  • Anti-Mr. Padal: Yay: KTF!!!

    Dear Joe Fosco,

    I don’t have any real or particular problem with homosexual behavior…PER SE…but, within in the confines of a holy Catholic Church, any sexual behavior (whatsoever) is very unacceptable to me.

    Joe, here are my rules: 1) no a*s clowns allowed; 2) no a*s play in church. End of story. What do you think about that?

    Are there anymore PSA’s coming out?

    • http://ktfmediagroup.com Joseph Fosco

      Dear Anti,
      Another PSA should be out by tomorrow.

  • kyle1234567

    Dear Joe,

    I have spent a significant amount of time reading your site, concentrating especially on your articles about Cardinal George and the Archdiocese of Chicago. I find your claims to be inflammatory, lacking objective perspective, and irrational. You layer on assumptions, a fatal flaw perhaps best witnessed in your article about the relationship between Fr. Flens and the Cardinal.

    As a Catholic layman of this Archdiocese, I take personal offense at your slander, but I also lament your lack of commitment to rational discourse. It’s one thing to highlight injustice in measured way, but your “articles” are full of hyperbole and disdain, as well as merely a passing relationship with the truth. I urge you to take a close look at your relationship with the Church and discern whether your Christian calling is being realized.

    Finally, and with real concern, I hope you will consider a mental health evaluation. Mental illness is dangerously unrecognized in some individuals, and I fear it may be affecting your outlook.

    You will be in my prayers.

    • Joseph Fosco

      Dear Kyle,

      Francis George is a creep (in my opinion). There are a number of valid reasons for me to feel the way I do. According to your position, you should be satisfied that I am not going to elaborate on my reasoning for referring to George as a creep. However, I have disclosed a great deal of my reasons in the number of articles that I have published on George (unrelated to my perspective on his sexual preference).

      Perhaps you should consider urging George to utilize the court system to address my articles. He has endless resources; therefore, a legal initiative on his part would be next to nothing for him to execute (against me). Please understand that I consider George’s failure to publically address my articles (thus far) as confirmation that I am correct.

      Whether George is a creep or not has no relevance on me being a good Catholic.
      As a side note, if I were a newly elected Jewish public official, I might have use for George, respective to his present position with a vast number of Catholic voters in Chicago.

      Thank you for being concerned about my mental status. Email me a request for my physical mailing address (jfosco@americannewspost) and send me a certified check for $1,000.00, if you truly want me to undergo an examination. With your money, I will gladly schedule a mental health evaluation. You may also select the doctor.

      In addition, thank you for planning to keep me in your prayers. Please be aware that I have prayed for you.