Thursday, November 21

The Society of St. Pius X And Cardinal Ratzinger

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In a curious, though not altogether unexpected, series of events, the little-known Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) has burst on to the international news circuit. Several members of this obscure Traditionalist Catholic organization were excommunicated in 1988 after their leader, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, conducted the infamous Econe Consecrations. Now, in early 2009, it looks as if Pope Benedict XVI may be extending an offer to bring these schismatic priests back into full communion with the Roman Catholic Church

Archbishop Lefebvre had many deep disagreements with the ‘liberalization’ of the Roman Catholic Church by the Second Vatican Council. His unhappiness with the modernization of Roman Catholic belief drew like-minded people to him. The retired Archbishop was persuaded to take a teaching position at the University of Fribourg, so as to continue the line of conservative traditionalist Catholic thought. It was during this time that the idea for The Society of St. Pius X was hatched. The SSPX was initially recognized by the Roman Catholic Church on a pia unio basis, which is the first step toward becoming a full blown religious community.

This is where things started to go badly.

With this new avenue open to them, the priests of SSPX began to push the main body of the Catholic Church to once again accept pre-Vatican II rites, like the Tridentine Mass. When pressure came from the College of Cardinals and the Pope for Lefebvre and SSPX to step back in line with current Catholic thought, they did not budge. This caused SSPX to lose its status and Archbishop Lefebvre to be suspended a divinis. This meant he could no longer celebrate any sacraments.

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  1. Lionel Andrades on

    Friday, July 22, 2011
    SSPX UNABLE TO PROCLAIM THAT ALL NON CATHOLIC PARTICIPANTS AT ASSISI 2011 ARE ON THE PATH TO HELL

    The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) is unable to say that all the non Catholics participating at the inter religious meeting at Assisi this October are on the path to Hell. The SSPX cannot affirm Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 since they believe that those who are saved in invincible ignorance or with the baptism of desire are not implicit cases, instead, they are explicitly known to us and so contradict Cantate Domino on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

    They are so confused that Bishop Bernard Fellay is not expected to answer the previous post on this blog just as he has never answered other SSPX-related posts e-mailed to him.

    The problem is that the SSPX interprets Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre as referring to de facto baptism of desire which is knowable to us in the present times. Yet the baptism of desire is known only to God. It can only be known to us in principle, as a concept. It is de facto only for God. So how can they interpret Archbishop Lefebvre as referring to a de facto known to us baptism of desire and invincible ignorance ? However this is being done.

    So the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance can never ever be an exception to the dogma Cantate Domino on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

    Cantate Domino suggests all the non Catholic participants at Assisi 2011 are oriented to the fires of Hell, unless before death, they convert into the Catholic Church. There are no baptism of desire or invincible cases among them that we can know of. The dogma says that they are all, with no exceptions, going to Hell.

    This simple truth however cannot be proclaimed by Bishop Fellay, and the SSPX bishops since they deny an ex cathedra dogma with an alleged de facto, explicit-to-us baptism of desire. All implicit salvation is explicit for the SSPX writers and members !

    Otherwise, vaguely they oppose syncretism and indifferentism and proclaim the Catholic Church as the one, true Faith, the only religion of God and that non Catholics need to convert into the Catholic Church except for…

    As for Fr. Leonard Feeney, nowhere in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 is it stated that he was excommunicated for heresy. Venerable Pope Pius XII in the Letter of the Holy Office published in the Denzinger  referred to ‘the dogma’ the ‘infallible teaching’. The dogma like Fr. Feeney affirms the ‘rigorist interpretation’ of outside the church no salvation.So the Letter supports Fr.Feeney on the dogma.

    It was the Archbishop of Boston Cardinal Richard Cushing who indicated that there were de facto known cases of persons saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire and so this contradicted Fr. Leonard Feeney and the dogma. The SSPX is repeating the same heresy.
    It’s time the SSPX organizes a conference on the dogma outside the Church no salvation, alongwith the communities of Fr. Leonard Feeney, who have been granted canonical status, to understand who believes in what.Extra ecclesiam nulla salus shows that a Catholic  can accept Vatican Council II according to Tradition, in accord with the dogma, and not according to the liberals, as a break with the dogma and Tradition.VATICAN COUNCIL II AFFIRMS CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS- Fr. Davide Carbonaro http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/vatican-council-ii-affirms-cantate.htmlIts a mortal sin to deny the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. It is a sacrilege to receive the Eucharist in this condition- Fr. Gabrielle, priest of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculatehttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/its-mortal-sin-to-deny-dogma-extra.html#linksTHERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF- Fr.George Puthoorhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/06/there-is-no-baptism-of-desire-that-we.html#linksTHERE IS NO DE FACTO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE KNOW OF-Fr. Masimilliano dei Gaspari F. Ihttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2010/05/there-is-no-de-facto-baptism-of-desire.html#linksEVERYBODY NEEDS THE EUCHARIST TO GO TO HEAVEN – Fr.Marcos Renacia, Augustinian Recollect priest http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/06/everybody-needs-eucharist-to-go-to.htmlMONS.IGNACIO BARREIRO CARAMBULA, INTERIM PRESIDENT,HUMAN LIFE INTERNATIONAL,USA SAYS “We don’t know any case of the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance.Only Jesus can judge”http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2010/10/monsignacio-barreiro-carambula-interim.html#linkshttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/sspx-unable-to-proclaim-that-all-non.html