The whole matter came to a head in 1988, when the Cardinal, on his deathbed, decided he would flout the Roman Catholic chain of command and personally consecrate four traditionalist bishops so that the mission of SSPX could continue after his death. Pope Benedict, who was then Cardinal Ratzinger, communicated with Lefebvre on behalf of Pope John Paul II in an attempt to strike a peace that would avoid the automatic excommunication this grave act would bring. The whole negotiation proved ultimately fruitless. The Econe Consecrations took place, and all involved were declared excommunicated.
For many years the story ended right here. There were a few furtive attempts to reconcile, but nothing came of this until the ascension of Cardinal Ratzinger to the Papacy. As the conservative Pope begins to allow more and more pre-Vatican II rites back into the Church, it looks like the bishops of SPXX might have their excommunications lifted. There is even talk that SPXX might become a personal prelature or apostolic administration, giving the organization the legitimacy it has craved for so many years.
Is this a wise decision? Some see this action as a declaration of war on all the progress the Roman Catholic Church has made in the last 50 years. Others see it as a chance to celebrate the Catholic faith in a fuller way, to be aware of the ancient rites of our forefathers. Which opinion is the valid one? It is extremely difficult to say this early on, and so the world must watch a little bit longer to see exactly what happens when the priests of Lefebvre come home to Vatican City.
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Friday, July 22, 2011
SSPX UNABLE TO PROCLAIM THAT ALL NON CATHOLIC PARTICIPANTS AT ASSISI 2011 ARE ON THE PATH TO HELL
The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) is unable to say that all the non Catholics participating at the inter religious meeting at Assisi this October are on the path to Hell. The SSPX cannot affirm Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 since they believe that those who are saved in invincible ignorance or with the baptism of desire are not implicit cases, instead, they are explicitly known to us and so contradict Cantate Domino on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
They are so confused that Bishop Bernard Fellay is not expected to answer the previous post on this blog just as he has never answered other SSPX-related posts e-mailed to him.
The problem is that the SSPX interprets Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre as referring to de facto baptism of desire which is knowable to us in the present times. Yet the baptism of desire is known only to God. It can only be known to us in principle, as a concept. It is de facto only for God. So how can they interpret Archbishop Lefebvre as referring to a de facto known to us baptism of desire and invincible ignorance ? However this is being done.
So the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance can never ever be an exception to the dogma Cantate Domino on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
Cantate Domino suggests all the non Catholic participants at Assisi 2011 are oriented to the fires of Hell, unless before death, they convert into the Catholic Church. There are no baptism of desire or invincible cases among them that we can know of. The dogma says that they are all, with no exceptions, going to Hell.
This simple truth however cannot be proclaimed by Bishop Fellay, and the SSPX bishops since they deny an ex cathedra dogma with an alleged de facto, explicit-to-us baptism of desire. All implicit salvation is explicit for the SSPX writers and members !
Otherwise, vaguely they oppose syncretism and indifferentism and proclaim the Catholic Church as the one, true Faith, the only religion of God and that non Catholics need to convert into the Catholic Church except for…
As for Fr. Leonard Feeney, nowhere in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 is it stated that he was excommunicated for heresy. Venerable Pope Pius XII in the Letter of the Holy Office published in the Denzinger referred to ‘the dogma’ the ‘infallible teaching’. The dogma like Fr. Feeney affirms the ‘rigorist interpretation’ of outside the church no salvation.So the Letter supports Fr.Feeney on the dogma.
It was the Archbishop of Boston Cardinal Richard Cushing who indicated that there were de facto known cases of persons saved in invincible ignorance or the baptism of desire and so this contradicted Fr. Leonard Feeney and the dogma. The SSPX is repeating the same heresy.
It’s time the SSPX organizes a conference on the dogma outside the Church no salvation, alongwith the communities of Fr. Leonard Feeney, who have been granted canonical status, to understand who believes in what.Extra ecclesiam nulla salus shows that a Catholic can accept Vatican Council II according to Tradition, in accord with the dogma, and not according to the liberals, as a break with the dogma and Tradition.VATICAN COUNCIL II AFFIRMS CANTATE DOMINO, COUNCIL OF FLORENCE ON EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS- Fr. Davide Carbonaro http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/vatican-council-ii-affirms-cantate.htmlIts a mortal sin to deny the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. It is a sacrilege to receive the Eucharist in this condition- Fr. Gabrielle, priest of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculatehttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/its-mortal-sin-to-deny-dogma-extra.html#linksTHERE IS NO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE CAN KNOW OF- Fr.George Puthoorhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/06/there-is-no-baptism-of-desire-that-we.html#linksTHERE IS NO DE FACTO BAPTISM OF DESIRE THAT WE KNOW OF-Fr. Masimilliano dei Gaspari F. Ihttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2010/05/there-is-no-de-facto-baptism-of-desire.html#linksEVERYBODY NEEDS THE EUCHARIST TO GO TO HEAVEN – Fr.Marcos Renacia, Augustinian Recollect priest http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/06/everybody-needs-eucharist-to-go-to.htmlMONS.IGNACIO BARREIRO CARAMBULA, INTERIM PRESIDENT,HUMAN LIFE INTERNATIONAL,USA SAYS “We don’t know any case of the baptism of desire or invincible ignorance.Only Jesus can judge”http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2010/10/monsignacio-barreiro-carambula-interim.html#linkshttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/07/sspx-unable-to-proclaim-that-all-non.html